SmarchLAN 2010 - March 19-21

[LiViD]

Screaming at a Tier 1 agent to get them to provision a residential line at a business is just plain stupid. The agent won't falter from that policy unless he or she wants a reprimand. Unless you know of an installer that can get past the Tier 1 rigmarole, you won't get a residential line installed in that building. Shaw abides by city bylaws and that building is listed as commercial.

Now I did some checking. I don't want to step on anyone's toes, but here is the info that I got from Commercial Sales:

1. Commercial accounts cannot be suspended.
2. The $110 fee will always apply to service reconnection.
3. A modem has to be provided at new installs, along with professional installation. They are "guaranteeing" the install.

Sorry, but that's how it works. Unless we host the LAN at a residential address, these rules won't change.

[Spyhop]

If you guys are interested I can probably get us a 6mb/1mb ADSL connection for a hell of a lot less.
6mb is the fastest we have though.

[r337ard]

Can you get us three?

Really tho, it is a better option to use a slightly slower service than one where we jump through hoops while we pay out the nose.

[LiViD]

If you guys are interested I can probably get us a 6mb/1mb ADSL connection for a hell of a lot less.
6mb is the fastest we have though.

I'm curious...

Is it through TekSavvy?

[Spyhop]

Internet Centre

[LiViD]

Do they support MLPP?

[Spyhop]

I don't even know what that is.

[fittysix]

Did we ever figure out if the modem trick would work?
Especially since this service was never actually de-activated - the modem should theoretically work as if it was just working normally at its proper home, as long as it's within the same 'region'

[LiViD]

I don't even know what that is.

Multilink Point-To-Point Protocol, basically modem-bonding so that you get 2x the bandwidth. The same technology was used in dial-up using two phone lines and two exact same modems.

[Spyhop]

I don't even know what that is.

Multilink Point-To-Point Protocol, basically modem-bonding so that you get 2x the bandwidth. The same technology was used in dial-up using two phone lines and two exact same modems.

Not sure if it's the same thing, but if you have a capable dual-wan router you would assign a /30 that we provide to each interface and we would route a netblock to those interfaces on our end.

[LiViD]

Well, I don't even know if MLPPP would work with iCentre. The only DSL company that I know of that supports MLPPP is TekSavvy. Most dual-WAN routers just support load balancing and fail-over support. MLPPP doubles the bandwidth, where load balancing does not.

[Spyhop]

Well, I don't even know if MLPPP would work with iCentre. The only DSL company that I know of that supports MLPPP is TekSavvy. Most dual-WAN routers just support load balancing and fail-over support. MLPPP doubles the bandwidth, where load balancing does not.

Load balancing would be fine. We're not trying to get one person a fast-as-possible connection. We're trying to get reasonable bandwidth split accross 50+ people.

[LiViD]

I am going to say that accomplishing such a task won't be easy unless everyone turns off every auto-updater known to existence and kill P2P clients. The questions are; How many people are willing to do so, and are you willing to enter in x amount of torrent tracker site into a HOSTS file?

[Spyhop]

no one. Let's continue onward as if that's not an option, because you're not going to get 50 people on the same page.

[Latency]

Did we ever figure out if the modem trick would work?
Especially since this service was never actually de-activated - the modem should theoretically work as if it was just working normally at its proper home, as long as it's within the same 'region'

lol, i have some newer motorola shaw modems at home. i'll talk to marshal and see if he'll give me access to the building to check. i wouldn't be surprised if it works.